1 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,299 ladies and gentlemen I'm a filmmaker 2 00:00:55,229 --> 00:00:59,369 James Fox executive producer of out of 3 00:00:57,299 --> 00:01:02,058 the blue I'd like to welcome everyone 4 00:00:59,369 --> 00:01:04,649 here to today's unprecedented event as 5 00:01:02,058 --> 00:01:07,408 we take pause in honoring our country's 6 00:01:04,649 --> 00:01:08,939 servicemen on Veterans Day I would like 7 00:01:07,409 --> 00:01:10,590 to take this opportunity to thank all 8 00:01:08,939 --> 00:01:12,259 the distinguished panelists for 9 00:01:10,590 --> 00:01:16,920 traveling here from so far 10 00:01:12,259 --> 00:01:19,709 Iran Peru Chile and the UK I also want 11 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,969 to thank journalists Lesley Kane the 12 00:01:19,709 --> 00:01:23,489 Coalition for freedom of information 13 00:01:20,969 --> 00:01:26,368 without her this event could not have 14 00:01:23,489 --> 00:01:29,728 happened her tireless efforts for the 15 00:01:26,368 --> 00:01:30,989 last three months were invaluable our 16 00:01:29,728 --> 00:01:32,579 panelists are about to share with you 17 00:01:30,989 --> 00:01:35,189 extraordinary experiences they've had 18 00:01:32,579 --> 00:01:37,379 while conducting their duties as 19 00:01:35,189 --> 00:01:40,679 high-ranking government a V Asian and 20 00:01:37,379 --> 00:01:42,719 military officials I'm now honored to 21 00:01:40,679 --> 00:01:45,269 present our moderator former Air Force 22 00:01:42,719 --> 00:01:54,209 captain in two-term Arizona Governor v 23 00:01:45,269 --> 00:01:56,879 Symington I'd like to welcome you all 24 00:01:54,209 --> 00:01:58,680 here today and I'd like to go over just 25 00:01:56,879 --> 00:02:02,250 the program with you so that you 26 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:05,299 understand how it will unfold but first 27 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:08,669 I'd like to thank James Fox for his 28 00:02:05,299 --> 00:02:10,649 unbelievable investigative work and 29 00:02:08,669 --> 00:02:14,969 research over the past 12 years on this 30 00:02:10,649 --> 00:02:17,939 subject he has really provided I think a 31 00:02:14,969 --> 00:02:20,209 great public service in an arena which 32 00:02:17,939 --> 00:02:24,449 is met with a great deal of skepticism 33 00:02:20,209 --> 00:02:27,569 and and and I just admire his courage 34 00:02:24,449 --> 00:02:29,219 and I've also very much enjoyed his 35 00:02:27,569 --> 00:02:31,169 production out of the blue I think he's 36 00:02:29,219 --> 00:02:33,180 done a great job with that but most 37 00:02:31,169 --> 00:02:34,649 importantly today is that he and Lesley 38 00:02:33,180 --> 00:02:36,659 Kane are responsible for pulling 39 00:02:34,650 --> 00:02:39,450 together this unique panel I don't think 40 00:02:36,659 --> 00:02:42,209 there's ever been a more high-level or 41 00:02:39,449 --> 00:02:46,530 distinguished group authoritative group 42 00:02:42,209 --> 00:02:49,019 that has dealt with this matter in one 43 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:51,389 conference and I'm very excited to be a 44 00:02:49,019 --> 00:02:53,609 small part of it I would also like to 45 00:02:51,389 --> 00:02:54,959 thank Lesley Kane again I'd like to 46 00:02:53,609 --> 00:02:57,420 reiterate the fact that as you know 47 00:02:54,959 --> 00:02:59,890 she's an investigative a journalist and 48 00:02:57,419 --> 00:03:03,429 director of the Coalition for freedom of 49 00:02:59,889 --> 00:03:07,029 information and she has done a fabulous 50 00:03:03,430 --> 00:03:08,740 job in this arena and also absorbed a 51 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:11,020 lot of the slings and arrows that are 52 00:03:08,740 --> 00:03:13,719 out there and the public arena regarding 53 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:18,310 this subject but she's done it with 54 00:03:13,719 --> 00:03:22,329 great fortitude and in I think very good 55 00:03:18,310 --> 00:03:24,670 taste I will have I will make my formal 56 00:03:22,330 --> 00:03:26,800 remarks after all the other gentlemen at 57 00:03:24,669 --> 00:03:31,299 the at the table here to my left and 58 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:33,040 right have made their statements and but 59 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:35,380 I would like to just quickly discuss the 60 00:03:33,039 --> 00:03:36,729 media format each of us is going to make 61 00:03:35,379 --> 00:03:39,489 a statement don't come up to the podium 62 00:03:36,729 --> 00:03:42,340 give a two to three minute statement and 63 00:03:39,489 --> 00:03:43,959 then sit down we're going to roll 64 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:46,810 through that part of the program so that 65 00:03:43,959 --> 00:03:51,129 everybody here can hear all of their 66 00:03:46,810 --> 00:03:52,900 testimony after that we all stand back 67 00:03:51,129 --> 00:03:55,780 up here at the podium and we will open 68 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:57,430 this up for Q&A for credentialed members 69 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:58,930 of the press if members of the press 70 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:59,920 when you stand up and ask a question if 71 00:03:58,930 --> 00:04:02,019 you would state your name and your 72 00:03:59,919 --> 00:04:05,109 affiliation that would be very much 73 00:04:02,019 --> 00:04:08,739 appreciated and in my role as the 74 00:04:05,110 --> 00:04:12,010 moderator I guess I also reserve the 75 00:04:08,739 --> 00:04:13,539 right to curtail a dialogue that may go 76 00:04:12,009 --> 00:04:16,029 on too long or something for the sake of 77 00:04:13,539 --> 00:04:17,858 time we want to make sure we we get to 78 00:04:16,029 --> 00:04:21,009 everybody and that all serious questions 79 00:04:17,858 --> 00:04:24,189 are our answer I would also like to note 80 00:04:21,009 --> 00:04:25,779 that there's a document here in front of 81 00:04:24,189 --> 00:04:28,689 you to your if you're in the audience to 82 00:04:25,779 --> 00:04:31,779 your left which has been signed by all 83 00:04:28,689 --> 00:04:33,459 of us which is a request for the United 84 00:04:31,779 --> 00:04:36,609 States government to reopen and effect 85 00:04:33,459 --> 00:04:39,129 the investigation into the UFO phenomena 86 00:04:36,610 --> 00:04:41,379 which was terminated back in I believe 87 00:04:39,129 --> 00:04:42,939 1969 Project Blue Book and it's a very 88 00:04:41,379 --> 00:04:43,089 interesting document and you should read 89 00:04:42,939 --> 00:04:46,300 it 90 00:04:43,089 --> 00:04:49,000 without further ado we'll charge you 91 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:51,930 head with our first speaker and we're on 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,930 our way thank you 93 00:04:58,529 --> 00:05:04,750 ladies and gentlemen good morning 94 00:05:00,750 --> 00:05:07,000 my name is Wilfred de Brouwer I'm a 95 00:05:04,750 --> 00:05:10,420 retired Major General of the Belgian Air 96 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,870 Force and I was chief operations in the 97 00:05:10,420 --> 00:05:17,759 Air Staff at a time that an exceptional 98 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:21,959 UFO wave took place over Belgium indeed 99 00:05:17,759 --> 00:05:25,709 during the evening of 29 November 1989 100 00:05:21,959 --> 00:05:30,519 in a small area in eastern Belgium 101 00:05:25,709 --> 00:05:32,189 approximately 140 UFO sightings were 102 00:05:30,519 --> 00:05:35,229 reported 103 00:05:32,189 --> 00:05:37,959 hundreds of people saw a majestic 104 00:05:35,230 --> 00:05:40,410 triangle craft with a span of 105 00:05:37,959 --> 00:05:44,469 approximately hundred and twenty feet 106 00:05:40,410 --> 00:05:47,500 powerful beaming spotlights moving very 107 00:05:44,470 --> 00:05:51,070 slowly without making any significant 108 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:54,819 noise but in several cases accelerating 109 00:05:51,069 --> 00:05:57,819 to very high speeds the following days 110 00:05:54,819 --> 00:06:02,110 and months many more sightings would 111 00:05:57,819 --> 00:06:05,639 follow the UFO wave would last more than 112 00:06:02,110 --> 00:06:10,650 a year during which a Belgian UFO 113 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:14,050 organisation conducted more than 650 114 00:06:10,649 --> 00:06:18,849 investigations and recorded more than 115 00:06:14,050 --> 00:06:22,300 400 hours of audio witness reports on 116 00:06:18,850 --> 00:06:25,330 one occasion a photograph revealed the 117 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:27,879 triangular shape and four light beams of 118 00:06:25,329 --> 00:06:29,709 the object I have the photograph here if 119 00:06:27,879 --> 00:06:33,850 you want to see more details later on 120 00:06:29,709 --> 00:06:36,849 but at the left of your left you see the 121 00:06:33,850 --> 00:06:39,460 original photograph at the right you can 122 00:06:36,850 --> 00:06:44,140 see an overexposed photograph which 123 00:06:39,459 --> 00:06:46,569 reveals the shape of the craft Belgium 124 00:06:44,139 --> 00:06:50,500 had no official focal point for 125 00:06:46,569 --> 00:06:53,709 reporting UFO sightings nevertheless and 126 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:56,110 my function of chief operations I was 127 00:06:53,709 --> 00:07:00,688 confronted with numerous questions about 128 00:06:56,110 --> 00:07:03,088 the origin and nature of these cars 129 00:07:00,689 --> 00:07:06,119 and first instance and in consultation 130 00:07:03,088 --> 00:07:08,848 with other NATO partners I could confirm 131 00:07:06,119 --> 00:07:12,329 that no flights of stealth aircraft or 132 00:07:08,848 --> 00:07:15,110 any other experimental aircraft took 133 00:07:12,329 --> 00:07:18,149 place in the airspace of Belgium in 134 00:07:15,110 --> 00:07:21,329 addition the civil aviation authorities 135 00:07:18,149 --> 00:07:25,288 confirmed that no flight plans had been 136 00:07:21,329 --> 00:07:28,168 introduced this implied that the 137 00:07:25,288 --> 00:07:31,259 reported objects or craft committed an 138 00:07:28,168 --> 00:07:35,178 infraction against the existing aviation 139 00:07:31,259 --> 00:07:39,059 rules the Belgian Air Force tried to 140 00:07:35,178 --> 00:07:43,528 identify the alleged intruders and on 141 00:07:39,059 --> 00:07:46,559 three occasions launched f16 aircraft on 142 00:07:43,528 --> 00:07:49,259 one occasion to have 16 registered rapid 143 00:07:46,559 --> 00:07:52,979 changes in speed and altitude which were 144 00:07:49,259 --> 00:07:57,360 well outside of the performance envelope 145 00:07:52,978 --> 00:08:00,360 of existing aircraft nevertheless the 146 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,549 Paris could not establish visual context 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,249 and the investigation revealed that 148 00:08:02,548 --> 00:08:07,888 specific weather conditions may have 149 00:08:05,249 --> 00:08:11,819 caused electromagnetic interferences and 150 00:08:07,889 --> 00:08:15,059 false radar returns the technical 151 00:08:11,819 --> 00:08:17,669 evidence was insufficient to conclude 152 00:08:15,059 --> 00:08:21,779 that abnormal air activities took place 153 00:08:17,668 --> 00:08:24,299 during that evening in short the Belgian 154 00:08:21,778 --> 00:08:27,348 UFO wave was exceptional and the Air 155 00:08:24,300 --> 00:08:30,300 Force could not identify the nature 156 00:08:27,348 --> 00:08:33,979 origin and intentions of the reported 157 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:33,979 phenomenon thank you very much